Notes taken during the ABC broadcast of the Honda Indy Toronto, Streets of Toronto, July 7, 2012.
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Welcome to Toronto where the entire town is GRIPPED with Hinch Fever due to their mass excitement for Canadian James Hinchcliffe. Let's go ahead and cue the hat (running order at the top). Word up to my homeslices in the B Unit which runs the hat and creates all the graphics. Those cases of Molson on ice in the back of your trailer are strictly decorative, I know! Not like you'll be tipping those back by lap 19 or anything ...
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Starting positin, car number driver, chassis, engine, tire, starting on prime or alternate tires.
1 10 Franchitti, Dario D/H/F Alternate
2 12 Power, Will D/C/F Alternate
3 18 Wilson, Justin D/H/F Alternate
4 7 Bourdais, Sebastien D/C/F Alternate
5 9 Dixon, Scott D/H/F Alternate
6 28 Hunter-Reay, Ryan D/C/F Primary
7 3 Castroneves, Helio D/C/F Alternate
8 77 Pagenaud, Simon (R) D/H/F Primary
9 15 Sato, Takuma D/H/F Primary
10 38 Rahal, Graham D/H/F Primary
11 14 Conway, Mike D/H/F Alternate
12 2 Briscoe, Ryan D/C/F Primary
13 83 Kimball, Charlie D/H/F Primary
14 22 Servia, Oriol D/C/F Primary
15 4 Hildebrand, JR D/C/F Primary
16 98 Tagliani, Alex D/H/F Primary
17 11 Kanaan, Tony D/C/F Primary
18 8 Barrichello, Rubens D/C/F Primary
19 27 Hinchcliffe, James D/C/F Alternate
20 67 Newgarden, Josef (R) D/H/F Primary
21 20 Carpenter, Ed D/C/F Primary
22 26 Andretti, Marco D/C/F Primary
23 5 Viso, EJ D/C/F Primary
24 19 Jakes, James D/H/F Alternate
25 78 de Silvestro, Simona D/L/F Primary
From IndyCar: Pursuant to Rule 14.14.6.4.1, Car 19 will start on Alternate Tires. Pursuant to Rule 15.6.1, Cars 19, 27, 78, and 98 have been penalized starting grid positions.(R) Rookie. (C)hassis: D=Dallara | (E)ngine: C=Chevy, H=Honda, L=Lotus | (T)ire: F=Firestone. (I love it when the league uses "pursuant!")
Look, it's Woman of pressdog® Jamie Little on camera at an angle that shows her baby bump (she's preggers)! So adorable! Stay hydrated, Jamie. Pit posse also includes Vince Welch and Rick DeBruhl. Scott Goodyear and Marty Reid are in the booth. Let's get two wide and light this candle ...
We're green green green. Power lets Franchitti lead into one and we're all through without crashes. The Circus Clowns are visibly despondent. Wilson dives into P2. Power didn't put up much of a fight there either. Props for all the cool heads so far.
Lap 2 -- Sato inhales Conway inside, then gets reinhaled a few turns later. Everyone continues to race like this is lap 2 rather than lap 82. Golf applause.
Replay of start. Hinch (on his radio to the pits) accuses Hildebrand of throwing a block party for him! Festive. Let's review this block/defend rule: The lead car has the right to choose his or her line. BUT, the lead car cannot change his or her line in reaction to the car behind. SO, it's all about timing AND holding the line once chosen. WHEN does the lead car go unusually tight into the corner trying to force the pursuing car to pass on the outside? Is it BEFORE the trailing car dives inside or AFTER the trailing car goes to dive inside? This is the nature of the block/defend rule as far as I can tell. Hinch was claiming that JR changed his line in reaction to what Hinch was doing, which is a no-no. Stewards disagreed however. No penalty.
Lap 5 -- Power overtakes Wilson for P2. Clear. Again, Wilson let's it happen without much "defending."
Lap 6 -- Power inside Franchitti ... clear. New leader. Power leads. Overtake for the lead on the track on a street course. Kill the fatted calf!
Lap 7 -- Come back from commercial and see Dixon in the run off. His engine is BLOWN up, SIR.
Is it just me or have neither Chevy or Honda covered themselves in glory re: engine making this year? These things have the durability of wedding cake. Plus Dixon just ran out of engines. That was his fifth that blew, so pursuant (!) to the rules, every engine change for any reason from now on is a 10-grid-spot penalty.
Lap 10 -- Simona pitted on Lap 9 and is sitting. Awesome. She got a new and improved Lotus engine for Toronto, that lasted a day. Changed that engine and now it's BLOWN up, SIR.
Lap 11 -- Festival of saving fuel here. TK and Hinch bash tires repeatedly on a replay. The rear wheel enclosures definitely helped avoid a crash on that deal.
Lap 13 -- Simona car is toast. She's done. NINE QUALITY LAPS. Hinch is getting monster air this race. The Hinch fans who are viewing have to be loving this.
Lap 15 -- Power, Franchitti, Wilson, Bourdais, RHR, Conway, Helio, Rahal, Kimball, Sato.
Lap 16 -- Festival of pitting is starting. Briscoe in. Power leads by 2.9 seconds over Dario.
Lap 17 -- Power told to save tires and not worry about fuel.
Lap 18 -- Bourdais is P3 after pitting.
Lap 19 -- Kimball and Rahal get side-by-side on the track and Kimball ends up in the tires. Nose first. Keeps it running! BACKS OUT OF THE TIRES. Gets going again. Monster skills. No yellow. (This was a HUGELY good moment for him as we shall see.)
Replay ... Kanaan hit another team's tire when he came out of his pit. Penalty should be coming. Rule is pretty clear if you hit equipment in someone else's pit box it's a penalty.
Conway inside RHR for P4. Conway is working it today.
Lap 21 -- Marty says IndyCar chief steward Beauxford T. Justice (Beaux Barfield) rules the Rahal/Kimball kerfuffle was one of them racing deals. No penalty. But TK will have to do a drive through for hitting the tire. I agree with both calls.
Lap 24 -- RAHAL ... WALL. Yellow yellow yellow. Rahal cooks a corner and bashes the wall in kind of slow motion. He's done. "Sorry guys" on the radio.
PITS ARE CLOSED. The leaders are screwed. Basically most cars behind the to 10 had pitted. Pitting under yellow on a road course is a huge disadvantage because you lose tons of track position. When you pit under green, typically the field is very spread out so you only lose maybe eight spots. Pit under yellow when the field is packed up you can lose 20 spots. The opposite is true on an oval. Pit under green lose a lap, pit under yellow lose some spots but stay on the same lap.
Long and short of it is Dario and Power are screwed by this, but could get un-screwed by later yellows. Stay tuned.
Lap 26 -- top half of the field pits. Dario has a huge long stop. He didn't pull in far enough for the fueler! Too far from the pit wall so the fueler can't reach the car. They have to jack the car's ass up and move it over so the fuel hose can reach.
Simon Pagenaud vaults from P9 to the lead with the pitting.
Lap 28 -- Green. Hinch pits! Looks toast. Lack of urgency among pit crew. Cowling coming off. Another super durable engine moment here.
Lap 30 -- Pagenaud, RHR, TK, Briscoe, Sato, Viso, Wilson, Kimball, Servia, Newgarden (!).
Lap 32 -- Kanaan is on the attack. Flinging his car around in there. Car flings that don't result in a wreck: "Aggressive move!" Same move results in a wreck: "ill-advised/wanker!" It's all about out come!
Vince with Rahal who admits to being in error. The earth loses mass causing me to float weightlessly for a second ... Graham Rahal admits he screwed up. Human sacrifice ... dogs and cats ... living together ... MASS HYSTERIA.
Lap 39 -- Hinch is toast. Canada mourns. I wonder here if the stands are clearing since Hinch is out. Hinch said the engine sounded strange and they came in and it was screwy. (I am paraphrasing.)
Insert a festival of lock step here.
Lap 42 -- Pag, RHR, TK, Wilson, Briscoe, Kimball, Sato, Viso, Servia, JoeNew.
Lap 44 -- JoeNew around Servia .. CLEAR. P9. Marching.
Lap 48 -- Kimball is driving out of his mind. All over Briscoe for P5 ... takes the position when Briscoe pits on Lap 49.
Lap 49 -- Pagenaud pits from P1. RHR leads. Pags probably will have to make another stop. JoeNew up to P7.
Lap 50 -- Conway and Sato in a knife fight. Conway inhales Sato, so does TK.
Lap 52 -- RHR is P1 and 1.2 seconds up on Wilson.
Lap 55 -- RHR and JoeNew pit. Hildebrand leads briefly, but RHR got back out in P2 and resumes the lead when JR pits on lap 57.
Lap 56 -- Power slowing. Has a flat left front. Fortunately he's just a couple turns from the pit so he's coming in. Replays. Power's left front wing part just drops off and he runs over it, cutting his tire. Pits for a new tire, then goes back out and will come back in for a new front wing. Trying not to lose a lap here. We later found out that Power bashed his rear wing into the back of Newgarden's car, causing the (self-inflicted) damage, and the wing then fell off.
Lap 60 -- RHR, TK, Pags, Kimball, Wilson, Briscoe, JoeNew (Newgarden), Viso, Borudais, Servia.
Lap 62 -- Pagenaud says Welcome to the Block Party! to Kimball. Festival of Making Himself Wide. Sure looked like a reaction to Kimball's move to me. Mr. Goodyear seems to agree with me ... but ... Beauxford says NO PENALTY.
Lap 63 -- RHR is four seconds up on TK in P2. Could it be three in a row for RHR? He's go the gas to make it 22 laps. Should win barring air strike, but that's always possible in a street race.
Speaking of air strike ... Wilson's car is toast. IndyCar 2012: A Festival of Attrition.
Booth guys do a good job here of running down the fuel situation. RHR is good on fuel. P2 TK needs to save. P3 Pagenaud needs to save. RHR looking good here unless stuff falls off his car randomly, which could happen this year.
RHR stretched out to a 6.4-second lead.
Lap 72 -- Kimball inhales TK for P2. Festival of exclamation points. Career best for Kimball.
Lap 73 -- DOGS AND CATS .. JoeNew inhales Briscoe for P5 AND TK for P4. Looking good here given the fuel situation for TK and Pagenaud.
Lap 75 -- RHR, Kimball, Pagenaud, JoeNew, Briscoe, EJ, TK (super duper leaning it out to save fuel), Borudais, Servia, Helio.
I'm starting to froth a little here because the long-suffering Josef Newgarden is carving the field, and Joe drives for Woman of pressdog® Sarah Fisher. It's a Festival of Bag Breathing.
Lap 78 -- Kanaan is clearly saving fuel and being overtaken by many people. He's back to P10. JoeNew is working on Pagenaud. Goodyear counsel's patience. Kimball is wondering on his radio if he can catch RHR. Love that. P2 looking for P1. You go, Chuck.
Lap 80 -- W. ... T. ... F.? Pagenaud PUNTS Newgarden into the tires. Insert screamed profanity here. Pagenaud throws a block party for Newgarden and sends him nose first into the tires. Seriously ..
Cue the circus music! Sarah Fisher Cam activated. Flips her head set off in disgust and appears to say a one-syllable word that probably started with "f." Judas H. Priest on a palomino. Someone throw a bag of dog shit at Pagenaud or something. Work with me. Exclusive audio from Sarah here!
Ha. Kidding. That was Doug Boles, former Panther boss, making his feelings known to Vince Welch in a 2006-ish race which remains the most excellent spontaneous emotional outburst ever. Not profane, yet heartfelt.
Of course we're yellow yellow yellow. Newgarden loses a lap as they try to get him out of the tires. A tiny beer truck pulls up and 19 clowns roll barrels beer out for the FESTIVE BLOCK PARTY then take turns tapping them in a way that sends beer geysers into the stands.
IndyCar is going to try and go back to green quickly to finish this under green. Golf applause for that. Sarah is probably off biting through the side of her hauler with RAGE.
Lap 81 -- Coming back to the green. RHR, Kimball, Bourdais (!), Servia, Conway, Helio, TK, JR, Jakes, Briscoe, Pags. Briscoe and Pags had to pit for fuel under yellow. Beauxford T. Justice rules that Pagenaud has to do a drive through under green for blocking. Slim consolation to the Newgarden fans.
Lap 82 -- We're green ... and of course ..
Cue the circus music! Festival of four-wide into 1. RHR has Bourdais right behind him on the double-file restarts (RHR could tell by the giant shark dorsal fin in his rear view mirror). Looked to me RHR went WIIIIDE to DEFEND which causes Bourdais to go WIIDDDE as well, and jink back inside a bit. About then, Conway BANZAIIIIIIS under Chuck (Kimball) -- Conway goes over the frigging rumble curbing -- then punts Chuck out into Bourdais and Bourdais ended up in the tires. WTF?
About five other cars end up collected as well in a different corner. Briscoe gets taken out by a combination of things that included a highly optimistic move on the outside by Dario. Naturally we're yellow yellow yellow. This one will finish under yellow. Kanaan jumped from P7 to P4 on that restart. A tiny van with "Welcome to Wankerland, Eh?" no the side pulls up and 16 clowns jump out and start filling out Dallara parts order forms, all of which have a box marked "NO GENERIC PARTS ACCEPTED" checked.
Under yellow ... RHR wins. Third straight. Second straight under yellow. And the Death Star goes ..
Kimball perserves his well-earned P2. Conway P3 which is cheeky given his Banzaii dive inside the first turn that undid Bourdais. Race control rules the last Festival of Carbon Fiber was just one of them racing deals. NO penalties.
The good news is RHR and Kimball, who earned their spots on their track, legit, end up 1-2. This lessons my chagrin over the ending FUBAR. Any street race that restarts with 5 to go is going to be Major Clown Moment. Saw it coming.
RHR is out. This time he's holding a bottle of Dr. Pepper. Kudos to Andretti Autosport for having the props ready go to! BAM. ABC works some interviews, including Bourdais who says too many idiots was the main issue on the last restart. Nobody talks to JoeNew or Sarah though. Maybe they declined. Josef got majorly screwed on this race. I bet the "was it blocking or defending" debate is raging even now.
Huge ups to RHR for three in a row. Even though two finished under yellow, all were legit wins. It would have been excellent to see RHR and Bourdais/Kimball battle at the end of Toronto, but Wankerism broke out.
Results ...
IZOD IndyCar Series
Honda Indy Toronto
TORONTO - Results Sunday of the Honda Indy Toronto IZOD IndyCar Series event on the 1.755 mile Streets of Toronto, with order of finish, starting position in parentheses, driver, chassis-engine, laps completed and reason out (if any):
1. (6) Ryan Hunter-Reay, Dallara-Chevy, 85, Running
2. (13) Charlie Kimball, Dallara-Honda, 85, Running
3. (11) Mike Conway, Dallara-Honda, 85, Running
4. (17) Tony Kanaan, Dallara-Chevy, 85, Running
5. (14) Oriol Servia, Dallara-Chevy, 85, Running
6. (7) Helio Castroneves, Dallara-Chevy, 85, Running
7. (15) JR Hildebrand, Dallara-Chevy, 85, Running
8. (24) James Jakes, Dallara-Honda, 85, Running
9. (9) Takuma Sato, Dallara-Honda, 85, Running
10. (16) Alex Tagliani, Dallara-Honda, 85, Running
11. (18) Rubens Barrichello, Dallara-Chevy, 85, Running
12. (8) Simon Pagenaud, Dallara-Honda, 85, Running
13. (20) Josef Newgarden, Dallara-Honda, 84, Running
14. (4) Sebastien Bourdais, Dallara-Chevy, 84, Running
15. (2) Will Power, Dallara-Chevy, 84, Running
16. (22) Marco Andretti, Dallara-Chevy, 84, Running
17. (1) Dario Franchitti, Dallara-Honda, 84, Running
18. (21) Ed Carpenter, Dallara-Chevy, 84, Running
19. (12) Ryan Briscoe, Dallara-Chevy, 83, Contact
20. (23) EJ Viso, Dallara-Chevy, 81, Running
21. (3) Justin Wilson, Dallara-Honda, 67, Contact
22. (19) James Hinchcliffe, Dallara-Chevy, 28, Mechanical
23. (10) Graham Rahal, Dallara-Honda, 23, Contact
24. (25) Simona de Silvestro, Dallara-Lotus, 9, Mechanical
25. (5) Scott Dixon, Dallara-Honda, 7, Mechanical
Race Statistics
Winners average speed: 95.787
Time of Race: 01:33:26.5096
Margin of victory: Under Caution
Cautions: 8
Lead changes: 5
Lap Leaders:
Franchitti 1 - 5
Power 6 - 25
Pagenaud 26 - 48
Hunter-Reay 49 - 55
Hildebrand 56
Hunter-Reay 57 - 85
Point Standings: Hunter-Reay 335, Power 301, Castroneves 289, Dixon 281, Hinchcliffe 268, Kanaan 267, Pagenaud 264, Franchitti 230, Briscoe 217, Servia 215.
Ryan Hunter-Reay becomes the first American to leads the IndyCar points race since Sam Hornish in 2006. Since Pagenaud didn't have a chance to serve his drive-through under green, he was penalized 30 seconds. Still finished in front of Newgarden, though.
Lap chart and race results courtesy of IndyCar PR.
That's it from Toronto. Not nearly as big of circus as last year. The new car with its enclosed back wheels is more able to take contact which I think contributed to the relative lack of FUBAR in this race. Also, drivers drove a little more intelligently early.
There were some calls for a green-white-checker rule in IndyCar after the last two finished under yellow. I understand the thinking behind that, but I don't support going GWC. The lap distance is the lap distance. Not sure GWC makes a lot of difference to viewers. In a street race, Green-White-Checkered would just create more flying carbon fiber and could artificially screw someone out of a win who deserved it (like RHR).
Feel free to discuss. I also crossed the 5,000 follower barrier on Twitter this week (@pressdog). Very humbling. Thanks to everyone who follows, and if I get on your nerves by all means unfollow.
Tune in July 22, 2:45 p.m. Eastern, NBC Sports Network for IndyCar at Edmonton.
Bonus transcript from podium finishers provided by IndyCar PR ..
THE MODERATOR: We'll go ahead and get started with today's post-race press conference. We are pleased to be joined by Mike Conway. This is Mike's best finish of the season, and Mike's previous best finish of the season was seventh at Barber. This is also the team's best finish at Toronto. I believe it's the team's first podium since our very first race at Brazil.
Mike, congratulations on a great run. Big mover starting from 11th up to 3rd. Walk us through your race.
MIKE CONWAY: It was a good day. We started out kind of hanging in there. I could see the other guys were going off around me. Kind of hung in there, was picking off people. The car was really strong down into turn three. I could pretty much pass everybody without using the 'push to pass' too much.
The car felt good. Obviously we missed out with the safety car coming out right at the end of our stint. That was unfortunate. But I knew if we kept doing what we were doing, we would be able to work our way back up to the front.
A bit of the struggle on the middle stint in the beginning. I waited for the other guys' tires to go off and started picking off guys again. The guys did a great job in the pit stops. At the end, we just kept on picking people off.
At the last restart, went inside of Charlie. We got a little bit close into turn one but we both made it through. Great to get a podium. Really happy.
THE MODERATOR: We'll open it up for questions.
Q. You just referenced going into the corner with Kimball. Did you make contact?
MIKE CONWAY: Yeah, a little bit. I knew it was getting a bit close. I was trying to back out of it as much as I could. I just touched his rear wheel. That kind of sent him a little bit sideways. Got through the corner.
Yeah, I couldn't quite see, that's why he was moving over on the inside.
Q. Mike, when you were being interviewed on television, they told you that Foyt wouldn't come to Victory Lane until you won. Is he a tough guy to work for? He's a gruff guy, rough guy. What's he really like to work for?
MIKE CONWAY: No, A.J. is great. He wants to win as much as everyone else. It's quite funny. That just makes me want to win even more. I mean, this podium is for A.J. today. Happy to get this result. Obviously we want to win and he does as well.
I've enjoyed my time. He's a great guy. Obviously he wants to win so he's very passionate and wants the best out of everybody. Yeah, that's just the way he is.
Q. Were you surprised that it looked like it was going to be an uneventful race as far as crashes, then all of a sudden it came back to rear up its head in the final restart?
MIKE CONWAY: I'm sorry?
Q. Just how this course that's known for its crashes...
MIKE CONWAY: Yeah, no, definitely. I think right at the end, so many marbles offline there was no real chance to sweep. That made the restart even more difficult.
Normally you see a fair amount of safety cars in here. It was an all-out spin race for me. I was constantly busy trying to pass people. It was a tough race. I enjoyed every bit of it.
Q. The two races entering this weekend we saw how good Ryan Hunter-Reay was on the short ovals, now the street courses. How formidable do you see him?
MIKE CONWAY: Yeah, Ryan has done a fantastic job. Three wins in a row on different types of courses. It's fantastic. All credit to him.
Yeah, you know, he's definitely a contender for the championship. He's leading it now. Will (Power) had a bad one and Dario (Franchitti), too. He's definitely on a run. Got to try to slow him down a bit.
Q. How would you characterize the ending of this race? You won at Long Beach. What did you think of the restart at the end?
MIKE CONWAY: From my perspective I'd have liked to have raced it out. I felt like we could have passed a few more cars. There were only a few laps left. Obviously they couldn't get it all cleaned up in time.
Yeah, I would have liked to have had more laps, because that was our day. We were working our way up and passing people. But, you know, it doesn't always fall your way.
Pretty happy with what we achieved today.
Q. Do you think IndyCar should have green-white-checkered finishes?
MIKE CONWAY: I don't know. I mean, that's a tricky one. I think that's just going to cause more crashes and more expense for everybody if you did it like that. It's pretty tricky to do all that. With the amount of marbles we had, we would have had to swept for another four or five laps. It wouldn't have been good.
Q. What about the fans?
MIKE CONWAY: Obviously you always want to race it out and finish under green. But, you know, I watched that race at Daytona last night. That gets pretty messy. I know it's different racing for us.
It is really tight here. We saw last year on all the restarts there were accidents. I don't know.
Unfortunately it does finish under yellow sometimes. That's just racing.
Q. Would you have liked to have seen a red flag, close the track, get the people that have crashed off, then have a restart? Would that be better?
MIKE CONWAY: Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that would have been good because you're stopping a race to fight out for another lap. I don't know if it's the best thing to do, to be honest.
If we'd have finished under green obviously the fans would be happier, but I think they've had a pretty good day. It was great to see all the fans out today. I think there was lots of action all the way through the race. I don't know. It's a hard one.
THE MODERATOR: Mike, thank you so much for taking the time to come in today. Congratulations on the podium.
MIKE CONWAY: Thank you.
THE MODERATOR: We are now joined by Charlie Kimball. This is a career-best finish in IndyCar for Charlie. He finished 25th last year in his only previous start in Toronto. This was also the second consecutive American 1-2 finish. Charlie, talk about getting this podium finish after coming back from that early race contact with your teammate.
CHARLIE KIMBALL: I wasn't going to make the point it was an American 1-2 since we're in Canada.
You know, it was a long, fun day, to be honest. I love racing here because it's a great event. The fans are awesome. Mike pointed out how great the crowd was today. You can feel that in the car.
From the start we had a really good car, making spots up. I think we put ourself in a good position setup-wise and strategy-wise. Qualifying I missed the top six by like a 10th, so we had a couple extra sets of tires to play with. That came into play towards the end of the race.
I made a move on Graham (Rahal) knowing we were pitting that lap hoping I could clear him and just help myself out a little bit getting into pit lane. Ended up not working out. Sort of bounced off the tire wall to be able to keep going.
The four guys that went by me, Oh, man, I'm going to have to pass those guys again.
We came into the pits, put new reds on, then the yellow fell our way with the pits being closed. It worked to our advantage, for sure. But we had the car to be able to run really competitive lap times and save enough fuel so the end of the race we were able to be super quick and make the mileage we needed.
A lot of credit has to go to the team. The whole Chip Ganassi Racing organization this weekend has been fast. I think we learned a lot from each other. At the end of the day the car was quick.
We got a good result, a really good result. Chip said in the prerace meeting today that points are important. I'm disappointed not to come out with maximum points obviously, but second is a lot better than 13th, where we started, or even eighth where my previous career best was.
It's great to put the 83 car here in Canada on the podium, represent not just Americans, but also with Type I diabetes and diabetes around the world.
THE MODERATOR: Questions.
Q. Mr. Bourdais didn't think quite so highly of that last incident. He was quoted saying that you didn't deserve a podium finish. Can you talk a little bit about what happened on that in turn one.
CHARLIE KIMBALL: I think everybody was in a bit of a tight spot there because they didn't sweep. We were all in the marbles coming through the last corner, at least those of us that tried to pair up and get offline, get next to the cars ahead of us.
Sebastien (Bourdais) got a good run and followed Ryan (Briscoe) to the outside. I used the draft and the overtake button, caught up, went down the inside, and Mike (Conway) steamed up the inside of me. I didn't think there was room without using the pit lane for Mike to get up inside of me.
He made the move. When we got to the apex, he made contact with my side pod. Because I'd been forced to go through the marbles, I slid out, and Sebastien on the outside wasn't even wheel-to-wheel. It was to the point where he was starting to fall back behind me. I thought he was backing out of the move to set up for turn three.
I was reasonably surprised when he came around and he was still stopped there. I think that's more a function of the restart and trying to do a two-wide restart after such a long green run without working on the marbles.
I think race control and the drivers association need to discuss with five laps to go, trying to finish under green, maybe we go for a single file restart instead of sweeping two-wide, because that way we can have a race, give ourselves an opportunity to go racing. I don't think it's safe to ask the drivers to attempt a double-wide restart without sweeping the marbles.
I think that incident, both in turn one and three, was more a function of that than anything else.
Q. How do you measure the importance of this finish for your career?
CHARLIE KIMBALL: Well, I think one of my favorite quotes is -- somebody asked a team owner what his best race win was. He said, The next one. So today is important, yes. It's good for my confidence. It's good for the team's confidence. I think we're building both car and driver together, have the foundation built, now it's time to get the results.
But it's all about moving forward and learning from here rather than relying on this to continue to keep my career moving.
Second's good; a win's better.
Q. Charlie, I haven't been at the Ganassi team meetings. What is it going to be like to be the best guy in the stable for a week or two?
CHARLIE KIMBALL: I'm not sure that I would call myself the best guy in the stable when I'm measuring up against champions like Dario and Scott (Dixon). We're going to get to Edmonton and I'm still going to be learning from them.
In fact, I'm going to be looking through their data this weekend to see what I can learn coming back for next year.
We weren't quickest in all the practice. We didn't qualify on pole and we didn't win, so there's still improvements to be made.
I think it's going to feel good, don't get me wrong. It feels really good to have only been beaten by one guy. There's still one part of me that is really angry that I got beat by one guy, got this close to a win and finished second.
It's going to feel good. The fact that both Chip and Mike Hull are big proponents of the expansion, championship-caliber racing management, stuck around to congratulate me, were so impressed with my lap times, fuel saving, doing what I needed to do when I needed to do it, meant a lot to me as an inexperienced driver.
Q. From a fellow diabetic, talk about the pressure you're under to run an IndyCar race, whether it's Indianapolis or Toronto.
CHARLIE KIMBALL: Well, I think physically if I do my job in the gym training and preparation, anytime I get in the racecar it should be easier than the time I spend in the gym. That's a lot of credit to my trainers in Indy.
Dr. Peterson does a great job with my management team. Usually when I'm in the racecar, all I have to focus on is driving. The fact that I can do so well is living proof that diabetes doesn't have to be in your mind to do what you love.
As far as other racing pressure, I think I put more pressure on myself to get results than anyone else ever could. That will never change because that's the competitive personality I am.
Q. Let's be frank. You've had some of your critics questioning whether you've been deserving of this ride over the last year. Do you feel this is vindication for you?
CHARLIE KIMBALL: Well, I think the modern racing driver is more than the guy that just gets in the car. It's an evolution of the last couple years. It takes more than driving to become an IndyCar driver.
Gone are the days when drivers show up Friday morning and go home Sunday night. We're all integral to our partnerships, commercially, motorsports. We're as much champions in the boardroom as we are on the racetrack.
I think the results on the racetrack, I've tried to follow Chip's lead. He has so much experience winning championships. Last year he sat me down and said, How many races have you done? I said, Five. He said, How many do you want to do? I said, Forever. You've done five. You want to do 500, you have a long ways to go.
Last year the focus was experience and laps and finishing races. This year is starting to build on that and get results in the second half of the season. We're starting to show that. Being in a position for the team and I to grow together is a lot of credit to Chip and Mike and Mitch Davis working together to collaborate into one four-car team.
Q. What does it mean for IndyCar and its fan base south of the border to have Ryan Hunter-Reay be on this roll and to have Americans finish 1-2 here?
CHARLIE KIMBALL: I think it's fantastic. I think I've always been a proponent that, yeah, being an American will help me in my younger career to get a drive.
Sure, I'll use it. At the end of the day I want to be beating the best if they're from Mars or America. At the end of the day it's about winning against the best. I think you're seeing that.
Ryan (Hunter-Reay) is on quite the roll. The fact that Graham finished second at Texas earlier this year, the American drivers are starting to show well. I think that's more an indication of us as drivers and less an indication of our nationality.
Having said that, I think it's great for the fan base. It's very much a North American championship. I'm going to enjoy rubbing it in Mr. Hinchcliffe's face that I finished second in his hometown because we're pretty good friends and train together. I might point out that my blue shoes worked really well for me today.
Q. Can you talk about the pass from fourth to second there.
CHARLIE KIMBALL: It wasn't simple, no. I'd gotten a really good run out of turn one. I knew that (Simon) Pagenaud and (Tony) Kanaan were backing up to me. They were having to save more fuel than me. We were taking better care of the red tires. Both of them had been -- Pagenaud for sure had been in Q2 in qualifying and had run a set of reds. He was on used reds. Kanaan was sort of slowing pace-wise saving fuel.
I got a really good run out of turn one. Thought of going to the overtake button. I only had 23 seconds left. I have to save it. If we have a shootout at the end of the race, I'm going to need it.
We'll just settle in, let him burn his tires off, and run here and see what happens.
I could see him when he took the button. He's going for T.K. he got a really good run on Tony through the inside. Tony is king of the late breakers. The fact that Simon wasn't alongside when they went to the brakes means that Simon had to brake really late.
I braked as late as I could, and I thought that neither of them were going to make the corner. I turned in, hit the concrete patch, put my foot down, and my Honda drove past them. They were both locking wheels, knocking off each other trying to stay out of the wall. I just kind of ran it clean and got the thing spooled up.
Once I had clear air, the understeer I was fighting went away and my lap times could drop and I could hit a better fuel mileage. My engineer was telling me, You're getting what you need fuel mileage. You're catching Hunter-Reay. You don't have enough laps to go after him. You're four seconds ahead of the 77. Take care of the tires in case we got a restart.
That proved to be the case.
Q. How much has your awareness level gone up since your sponsor started doing the commercials?
CHARLIE KIMBALL: It's been significant this year, I think. That's as much a growth of the partnership with the prime time commercials, the sort of traditional media work that I do, as well as just momentum building from last year. It's more significant now than it ever has been.
I'm very fortunate that I'm able to reach a broader audience with my message. That's important to me.
Tuesday I was in Orlando, Florida at children with diabetes doing a defensive driving course for young people with diabetes. The fact that I could get in a car and teach them how a professional driver with diabetes races with diabetes, teach them some tips and tricks for the road as far as avoiding incidents, being heads up, it's fortunate for me and very fulfilling at the same time.
THE MODERATOR: Charlie, thank you for joining us today. Congratulations on the first podium.
CHARLIE KIMBALL: Thank you.
THE MODERATOR: We are very pleased to be joined by today's winning team owner Michael Andretti. Your name is synonymous here at Toronto. Talk about getting the first win as a team owner.
MICHAEL ANDRETTI: What can I say, I love Toronto. I think everybody knows that. It's been a great track to me as a driver. We struggled here a little bit from the owner's standpoint. It was great to finally get to Victory Lane.
Ryan did a fantastic drive. The team did great pit stops. The whole DHL team, couldn't ask for a better team for them.
THE MODERATOR: We'll open it up for questions. Of note, all today's top three drivers at some point in their career drove for Michael's team.
MICHAEL ANDRETTI: That's pretty cool.
Q. Michael, in 1989, your first win here, tremendous feeling. Is there any similarity at all to today, your first win as an owner? And are there six more to come?
MICHAEL ANDRETTI: I hope so.
I don't know. It's always different as an owner and a driver. They're both really special in their way. As a driver there's more of that self-satisfaction. As an owner it's a great feeling, too. More the camaraderie of the people.
I feel happy for everybody on the team that has worked so hard. But it's great. I do hope there's more than six, because hopefully I can be an owner a lot longer than I was a driver.
Q. Three weeks ago Ryan wins at Milwaukee, they say he wins at Milwaukee. He wins at Iowa; he's great on the short tracks. Now it's three in a row. How formidable do you see him being in the championship?
MICHAEL ANDRETTI: I think he's a real factor in the championship. He's really strong on these types of tracks as well. He doesn't have a weakness when he's driving. That's what you need to have as a driver. As a team owner, to have a driver like that, that's something we liked about Ryan, that we could be competitive on all types of tracks.
We're looking forward to the next how many races we have. I don't think there's a weak track for him.
Q. Michael, James Hinchcliffe came into this weekend with a lot of expectation locally. He had a disappointing weekend. Can you talk about that.
MICHAEL ANDRETTI: I feel bad for him because he was doing a helluva job. He was going to be a factor for the win watching the times he was running. They did a good strategy as well, and then his engine had a problem which was a shame.
It wasn't anything Ryan did wrong. I think he was driving a helluva race. The whole Go Daddy team is doing a good job with their strategy.
I thought we were looking at a really strong contender there. I was hoping for a shot at the 1-2. I mean, he just had bad luck, plain and simple.
Q. Michael, as a driver and as an owner you've seen streaks. What do you advise your driver who is probably on the hottest streak of his career how to handle it going into the next few races?
MICHAEL ANDRETTI: Don't do anything different than you've been doing the last three races. He's been late every Thursday for his engineering meeting, so he's got to plan on being late for the next one in Edmonton.
I don't think Ryan should do anything different. I don't think the team should do anything different. We should just continue to do our job. If everybody does their job, we should be okay. If there's no mistakes made the rest of the year, I think we have a good shot at winning the championship.
THE MODERATOR: Michael, thank you for taking the time.
We're pleased to be joined by today's race winner Ryan Hunter-Reay. His previous best was third. This is the third consecutive win for Ryan. Today's win also puts him atop the championship points standings.
Ryan, when you were here on Friday, we asked you was the focus the race win or points? You seemed to accomplish both.
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: It's great to be sitting here. Toronto is one of my favorite races, so this is a special one for sure. Three in a row is awesome. We're just concentrating on doing well, doing what we've been doing.
We've been good on street circuits in the past. It's nice to go from the ovals to a street course and be able to win on both. It shows that this team is capable of a lot. It's all about them. It's all about the car they give me and the job they do in the pits. Just how the whole team is working together, it's a real pleasure to be a part of.
THE MODERATOR: We'll open it up for questions.
Q. How important is it to you that Dario was on the pole?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: It's very important, because every time I've won Dario has been on the pole. I hope he gets a lot of poles this year.
Q. At what point did you know this was yours?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: Right from the get-go when we slotted in. We were fifth or sixth. I knew I had a pretty good car. I was content with staying there for a little bit, saving fuel, waiting for the track to rubber-in a little bit.
We pit. All of a sudden the track started coming to us. We were going quicker than we were in the first stint by a lot. When we put on the Firestone reds at the end, we were really fast.
It's been nice. The last few times we led at the right times, at the end. Like the guys said, it sounds cliché, to jump into pit lane and have a flawless pit stop each time is instrumental to winning.
Those guys just did an awesome job. The car was great. Chevy reliability. To win here in Canada with Chevrolet, it's great.
Certainly we're on a streak, but I see it more that we're reaching our capability in what we can do. I certainly hope there's a lot more to come. We just need to have a real strong end to the season like we did last year.
Q. You had a comfortable lead going into the final five laps, and all of a sudden the yellow comes out. You know there's going to be the restart. How antsy were you knowing what this course can do, knowing that the comfortable lead you had was going to be done?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: Was a strange feeling it was leading. I'm eight laps in the lead and I couldn't see anybody ahead of me, nobody behind me. You're sitting there leading the race. It's a weird feeling because you're all by yourself, but you still have to push 110%.
I'm thinking 20 laps, 10 laps, still no yellow. There's no way this thing can go green the whole thing. Then, boom, the yellow comes out.
The worst thing about a restart when you're leading is getting the rubber accumulation, the marbles on the tires. That is the worst part. You're just trying to tiptoe around, keep the tires clean, and hope you don't step wrong on the first corner, because that's when the tires are at their worst and you could easily go offline picking up marbles. That could take you another lap to clean off tires.
We got through it and had a great restart. It was unfortunate to finish under yellow. I would have liked the fans to have seen a green finish, but that's Toronto. Turn three is Mayhem Corner, so...
Q. Hard to believe that just a few days after the 4th of July there's only five races left to the season and here you are in the lead. This is like the stretch drive here for the title. How do you prepare yourself for that?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: I think, like Michael said, we keep doing what we're doing. We just won two races in a row. We came here and didn't do anything else. People weren't acting any different. We were having fun doing what we do.
Like I said, the team is really clicking together. We're all good friends. It's the right environment. We just keep doing that.
The only nerve-wracking part about the points bit, the championship chase, is that you don't want to come under anybody else's mistake. It's not so bad if you, yourself, take yourself out of the race. That's your own fault. If somebody just cleans you out, that's what you worry about most. But that's natural.
We're just going to keep doing what we're doing, nothing overcomplicated, and really enjoy it. If you're not enjoying it, you're not going to win, that's for sure.
Q. This three-race stretch is on very diverse tracks. To have won on all three, that's pretty impressive. Can you talk more about that, the personal satisfaction.
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: It is. You know, to win three races in a row is very special. It's a dream of mine. This is what I've always wanted since I was little, to be competing in the IndyCar Series, top-level team, winning back-to-back races, and being in a place for the championship. This is incredibly special for me. I'm appreciative of every lap that I get in this series because I love it.
You know, looking forward, with five races to go, like I said, we just need to really enjoy it. It's nice to have realized that we're in this position. And this is what I've always wanted, but now we have to take hold of it and go get it done.
To beat Will, Dario, Dixon, you know, a lot of these guys, it's just going to be really tough week in and week out to do it. It's going to take something special from us - maybe something even more special than we've already done.
The Milwaukee flat oval, Iowa oval, you come to a street circuit, and couldn't be any different. That's a testament to the team. We're versatile. Not only myself, but the team. You're only as good as your car. They have to give me the car to do it.
It is very satisfying for me to know that, boom, oval, oval. Last week people were starting to say, Isn't it weird that your past three races are wins on oval and you're supposed to be a road course guy? Then to get it at Toronto, it's nice, for sure.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not getting ahead of myself. The whole thing could change next weekend and we could be struggling.
Will Power said something before the season that he goes into every year feeling like he could possibly never win another race again. That's how I felt after the last win. Man, we really have to dig deep here to get another one of these. It is difficult to wind it all up.
Q. Pretty good anniversary week. Getting back to the race, this race is known for cautions. You build up a big lead. How did you determine your fuel strategy? Did you fight with your engineer?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: Usually at Toronto you are arguing. Today was smooth. Saved fuel in the beginning stint. Track wasn't quite rubbered in. Had a little imbalance. We pit. The yellow came out. That was definitely nice. They closed the pits after that.
That got Dario and Will, I believe. Isn't that right? I think that's what happened. Then we restarted third. We got Briscoe for second on the restart, and then settled in behind Simon. He pits, and I'm not sure what happened to him from there.
But I put my head down and I was just putting qualifying laps in. We stretched out a lead. From there, all good. It was a pretty docile Toronto event from my perspective.
Q. A few years ago people were wondering Ryan Hunter-Reay, a talented American driver who can't find a ride in open-wheel racing. You're here now. Does that bring a different dimension to being the championship leader?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: Well, absolutely. I struggled to find a home really. I've been saying it in some interviews today. This is a team sport, it really is, in every way, as much as football, soccer, anything. It's a team sport. And to find continuity, to find a home, to work with the guys around you for two, three years in a row makes a massive difference.
I can see it now. That's why Dixon has been with Ganassi for so long for Franchitti; Helio has been with Penske for so long. It makes a difference. I'm enjoying that part of it now.
That makes me that much more appreciative to be in this position, to have a solid ride, and hopefully it will be for many more years to come. I don't know, but you have to drive like it's your last race, and I still do that way.
Q. You made comments in Victory Lane about finally finding a family atmosphere where you could let the talent come out. When you talk about it, you put a lot of credit on the team. How much of this success do you think is your chemistry with the team and how much is the chassis, the Chevy, they put under you?
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: It's everything. To win one of these races everything has to come together. You have to be firing on all cylinders. Everything has to go right. You might even need a little luck along the way.
I have to give the engineering department a lot of credit at Andretti Autosport. They are given the opportunity from Michael, the team owner, to do what they're doing. Here we are making the results happen on track from their hard work.
It's really nice to see all that paying off. Hopefully we have more of that to come. That's why I keep saying about the team, the atmosphere within the team is the best I've seen it since I've been here. It's my third year here. Like I said, I really feel that atmosphere. It's a contract for me, too.
THE MODERATOR: We'll wrap things up with Ryan. Congratulations on another great victory.
RYAN HUNTER-REAY: Thank you all. Appreciate it.
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Joe Newgarden's rookie impatience screwed his team. Dude could've had a podium for sure, or challenged for more if he'd just stayed cool. Pisses me off cause I like Joe and Sarah. Joe did his team no favors, his fault or not. Maybe a sponsor would've taken notice with a top three. Cool your jets, Joe.
Good race. Not sure about GWC--no one wants to see a race end behind the pace car, but GWC is weird too--so don't know.
Posted by: redcar | July 08, 2012 at 10:41 PM
Newgarden continues to be his own worst enemy. A bit more patience and he (and Sarah) would have had a podium. Hell, even a fourth would have been reason for joy in the SFH camp.
GWC? Just more wrecks. No gimmicks required or desired IMHO.
Posted by: Ron Ford | July 08, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Newgarden was pretty contrite in the team PR news release: “Unfortunately at the end, I attempted a pass on Pagenaud that l don’t think I should have tried,” Newgarden said. “I went into the tires and that was the end of our fantastic run today.”
Posted by: pressdog | July 09, 2012 at 07:10 AM
Newgarden made the move he needed to make at the time he had to make it. There was nothing rookie about that move but there was something BS about Pagenaud's "defending". Newgarden has had some bone head moments but this one and turn one at Long Beach were not among them.
Posted by: Sean | July 09, 2012 at 07:25 AM
Let's not muddy the waters. Pagenaud's move on Newgarden was blocking, not defending. It was obvious to the booth, to the viewers and called such by race control. Blocking versus defending is not complicated, but constantly putting "defending" in quotes when talking about blocking, makes it seem more complicated that it is.
Great race, though bad form by Ryan to cast aside the American Flag to instead hold up some beverage. I couldn't see what it was, but it wasn't a sun drop. Might have been a Dr. Pepper but it was in a weird bottle. Not sure it sold any more beverages, but it certainly irritated a lot of post July 4th Americans. If you're going to carry the American flag with you all race, you'd better not chuck it out of the car when you get to victory lane. Given the chance to play that moment again, I'm sure Ryan would have done that differently.
Posted by: Simona Fan | July 09, 2012 at 09:56 AM
I think the PR guy chose to hand that flag to RHR at an inopportune time. He was trying to get out of the car, undo his ear plugs and was being handed a bunch of stuff. They should have waited to hand him the flag until he was on the podium. I don't think he was even looking at what was being handed to him.
In other words, relax. RHR was not slighting the flag. Mountains and mole hills.
Posted by: Sean | July 09, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Agree with Sean. My viewing of it was people were handing RHR about 19 things, hats, Dr. Pepper can, flag, etc. and it was too much to handle while he's trying to get out of the car, on cue etc. Looked like he set the flag on the car and it fell off. Definitely not a slight. Lesson here is belay the flag stuff until he's out of the car and can handle it according to the extreme scrutiny you know bringing a flag out creates.
Posted by: pressdog | July 09, 2012 at 10:47 AM
If Simon doesn't block, Josef completes the pass as cleanly as anyone can do at Toronto. Can't fault Newgarden for making that move.
Posted by: billytheskink | July 09, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Sounds like it was a very entertaining race that I was not able to see because I spent three hours (including from green flag to checkered) visiting every pet and aquarium store in town looking for three goldfish that resemble the three goldfish belonging to the neighbor kids that we were goldfish-sitting, all three of which sadly passed on to the great fish bowl in the sky within five hours of us taking possession of them, and though I checked the DVR (the provider of which I shall not name because it would no doubt be accompanied by a festival of F-bombs, but it's definitely NOT Charter) THREE TIMES to make sure it was set up to record the race, and it was, it nonetheless did not record the race. And I'm pretty sure ABC doesn't replay Indycar races. So long story short, thanks for the thorough recap, P-dog. I needed it.
Posted by: Jack | July 09, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Newgarden has made way too many "rookie mistakes" this year even for a rookie. Yes, Pagenaud blocked him (a very mild block by F1 and sportscar standards, BTW), and maybe Pagenaud would have been penalized for it with a drive-through since IndyCar drivers and officials seem to be such cry babies about blocking. If so, that would have given Newgarden the spot. Yet, Newgarden persisted in the pass even though it meant taking an impossibly shallow entrance into the right hander, way off the proper apex of that turn. So, not surprisingly, he understeered straight into the tire barrier on the outside of the turn. That wasn't even a rookie mistake, that was a rank beginner mistake. What should he have done? Hit the brakes hard, tuck in behing Pagenaud, tippy-toe around the corner given his lousy line, then size Pagenaud up for a lap and definitively inhale his ass making a clean pass elsewhere. In other words, survive to pass on another lap. This is not something you learn as a IndyCar rookie, this is what you should have learned as a 12-year-old racing go-karts. The kid has talent, but how many lost opportunities and damaged cars does SFHR have to suffer before he grows up? The reality is that talented drivers are a dime a dozen in today's market. Get someone else in that seat for next year, someone with experience. SFHR should cut their loses with Newgarden.
Posted by: bradman | July 09, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Mr. Man,
Was that a parody comment? "Hit the brakes hard"? While over on the marbles? With two cars bearing down fast behind? Who's to say that that doesn't result in him going nose first into the tires or tangled with another car, anyway (not that the actual result was a damaged car, because it wasn't; he did finish the race without pitting, just a lap down).
I'd put the blame for Simon/Josef on Simon (about 80%, because that WAS a block, and I slo-moed the incident on the TiVo about 5 times to confirm that Josef moved before Simon did...which is the definition of a block, regardless of whether Simon was looking in his mirrors at the time or not) and on Josef's team (about 20%, for not telling him that Simon wasn't going to make it on fuel and was going to have to stop; Josef was going to get the spot one way or the other anyway). Josef couldn't have known the fuel thing on his own, so he's going to do what any self-respecting race car driver does: try to pass a slower car. Good on him. The fact that he's repeatedly qualifying in the top-12 and running up in the top-5 every so often, as a raw, 21 year old rookie, and for arguably the smallest team on the grid, that tells me that he is a future superduperstar. This is LeBron James playing for a putrid 2005 Cleveland Cavs team here, people (though apologies to Sarah Fisher and her crew; they are most definitely not the Cleveland Cavs of IndyCar, I'm exaggerating a bit to put this into stick and ball perspective; really, they're more like the Utah Jazz or something, a small market team overdelivering with limited resources).
Good race, no arguments about any of the race control calls. ABC's still not any good (again, for the millionth time, cutting away from cars merging out of the pits into traffic to watch cars on the other side of the track running by themselves...not that anybody pointed this out to them THREE WHOLE YEARS AGO or anything...), but no complaints otherwise. We've got a pretty compelling season on our hands here.
Posted by: The Speedgeek | July 09, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Nope, no parody, Geek. Obviously you judge brake pedal pressure against the track surface under your car. As you know, marbles accumulate far more on the outside of the racing line than on the inside. There were not many marbles where Newgarden was on the inside of the racing line of that turn. He could have braked sufficiently hard to have tucked in behind Pageneaud. The drivers behind him would have seen what was happening, that he had been pinched off and was bailing out of a pass attempt, and, hopefully, would have taken whatever measures they needed to avoid contact. Important point about Pagenaud running low on fuel, though. I was not aware of that. There was plenty of time to have let Newgarden know about that. My concern with Newgarden is lack of judgement. That may come with experience, or not. Case in point, Viso. But, who knows, maybe Newgarden will find his Miami Heat someday.
Posted by: bradman | July 10, 2012 at 08:48 AM
So, Jack, were you able to find the three new goldfish that looked just like the old goldfish? Or was the entire day a washout from start to finish?
Posted by: Sue | July 11, 2012 at 09:15 PM
Somehow Jack's dilemma reminds me of "Meet the Parents".
Posted by: Mike R | July 12, 2012 at 04:52 AM