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February 13, 2013

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Brett

Giving someone a job (or sponsorship in this case) just because of someones gender is just as not giving someone a job (or sponsorship in this case) just because of their gender!!!

If you want to complain about how a driver is getting screwed because they don't bring a lot of money with them why not make a post about a Indy pole winning driver, a multiple race winning driver and an almost (except for a brain fart mistake leaving pit road) IndyCar champion?

Roy Hobbson

"Success in racing today is almost as much about personal marketing skills as it is driving skills, and that sucks. That's true in very very very few other sports."

That is why IndyCar is not technically a "sport." It is a touring, business-minded entertainment production. Like a play. No play can consist entirely of the world's most talented actors - it would be too expensive. By contrast, the NFL & NBA & PGA & MLB & European soccer leagues & professional bowling & professional boxing & the NHL consist ENTIRELY of world's most talented/deserving athletes in their respective sport.

That's not to say that IndyCar drivers aren't athletes, because they are. It's just that they may not be the most talented athletes available, because entertainment production aren't cheap & somebody's gotta pay the bills.

Tammy Kaehler

Racing is one crazy-a$$ sport, and that's part of its appeal. But when people you like (and I'm a big fan of Katherine's also, for exactly that quiet, professional, "I want to race" demeanor) get screwed, it's pretty frustrating.

I was so excited for TrueCar's effort last year, and I'm pretty disappointed they've abandoned it already. Sure, it was a gimmick, but it got nice attention and helped out some of the many (males and females in this boat) deserving drivers who just need a little luck or $$ to make it.

It's all really a bummer.

Ted Wolfram

Let's put the blame (and YES I do mean blame), where it belongs....at the door of IndyCar.

Unless and until IndyCar changes the formula away from "spec" cars with leased engines, and set a series of rules that control costs...if you can't bring a sponsor or sponsors to the dance...you can be as good as Brisco, or have as much promise as Ms. Legge, or be as promotive as Pippa...and you won't get a car or a chance.

vern

The fact that most of us heard about Truecar as being mainly to support females in the sport of racing makes this news shocking from that standpoint & that a male now has her ride with what most assumed was mainly a female sponsored program. However many on Trackforum (not a bad place for info) have stated on this topic that Truecar was never really about just sponsoring females, or if it was they found out that wasnt productive, however its being said now this sponsorship program was for the team and not just Legge, which surprised most as well.

The basic argument is does a female deserve a ride just because she Is a female even though she is not at a competitive level in comparison with a male driver up for the same ride? Course get this--the male driver who now has "her" ride doesnt have much better stats then her but because he is much younger he is the better choice--so lets debate that one, as now apparently age of the driver is playing a role--OK--but--Nascar loves the younger drivers also. Remember, the younger Joey Logano got the Cup ride over the older Sam Hornish and they made a point of the age with that choice also??

This is bad for Legge but happens to lots of drivers. The main story though is about all of us who thought Truecar was supposed to be about supporting female drivers but now apparently NOT.

Bill Sanford

Great thoughts, Dawg. Let's not forget the other side of the coin...competence-challenged drivers out there on the track only because they bring big $$. Not naming names, just sayin'.....

Dylan

Wait... True Car is giving money to Saadavra??? That is messed up... wonder if he'll walk away from Dragon like he did to Herta? Its one thing for "The Quitter" to bring money to a team... its another for someone to give him money. That's really awful.

redcar

Legge got screwed. I'm not a Saavadra fan to begin with and could care less if he had a ride or not. And Jay "Yacht Club" Penske's act is getting old quick. I'm disappointed with Truecar for not keeping their dough with Legge.

But hey--now I have some bad guys to root against. And Good luck to Katherine.

Ron Ford

Saavadra an upgrade over Katherine Legge??!!
Reeks of a decision made in a yacht club parking lot.

vern

I just read on another forum that Legge now is suing over all this and while some may take her side, Truecars side or Dragons side, the one comment that stuck out for me I read was "Indycar doesnt need this", meaning more negative press. There are very few females in the top series of auto racing and it isnt going to help matters for females in the sport if Legge pushes this causing more negative press for Indycar. The other thing is regardless of whether she got a raw deal or not will more then likely deter any other team or sponsor from wanting to get involved with her over all this. We all know its tough enough for females in the sport to succeed as they need all the good press they can get and need to bring something positive to the sport to attract sponsors etc, which we know most females struggle with getting good sponsors.

Bottom line here--Iam not saying Legge is wrong or right as I dont know the details but I imagine Indycar is cringing right now over all this bad press, course they say all press is good so we'll see. IF by some chance she was wronged and wins something from all this and Dragon has to give her the ride--does she really want to be with a team she had to sue to get the ride, although most say her chances of winning this is slim or none? Too bad--and good luck to her but it appears she's in an almost no win situation--as they say "between a rock and a hard place". I admire her fighting for her job & career over all this though as she has little choice and drivers need to stand up for themselves if they think they were wronged, although you can sometimes win the battle but still lose the war--guess we'll see?

DinahMoeHumm

I've been a KL fan since she raced in Atlantics. No doubt she got the shaft. There is a "contact us" link at truecar.com. Not going to tell anyone else what to do, but, I used it to tell truecar what I think of them and whether I'd ever consider doing business with them.

Josh

It seems as if Jay Penske is one of the shadiest car owners in the paddock over the past 10 or so years. And that really says something in the IndyCar paddock!!

We can add Legge's name to the list of people Jay Penske P****d on.

Paul Tracy, Davey Hamilton, Rafa Matos, Steve Luczo, Gil de Ferran, the woman in Nantucket, and now Legge.

And whatever happened to all those web impressions he promised to IndyCar to get the Leader Card money for 2011 or was it 2012????

Chiefswon

I thought Politics was bad in corporate America....Wow. Hard to get my head around this..... Thanks PDog!

Mike R

I followed the lead of DinahMoeHumm and emailed Truecar. Don't know if it'll make any difference to anyone, but they'll have heard from at least two people now.
I'm really pretty pissed about the way Kat got shanked by Penske and Painter.

pressdog

Roy Hobbson #NailedIt as only Roy can. I agree with his analogy 100%. As long as you are OK with that reality -- and I condemn no one for choosing to be OK with it -- then you can enjoy the show and have a lovely time.

As usual, I appreciate the both the tone and content of the comments here.

cartracer20

Sent my thoughts to TrueCar as well. They need to know that their actions are hurting their image and their advertising dollars are getting them nowhere, so long as they are acting against their own mission statement.

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