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Ted Wolfram

The first TV numbers are in for the NASCAR race (the time after 7:00 PM) 7,300,000.

I have hope for the Brazil ratings, except it started at 8:30 AM on the coast.

As far as the "blocking rule" is concerned...if it had been enforced as written...the ending would have been ???? hard to believe it could have been as good as what we got.

I enjoyed all three races, and the Nationwide race was decided by the rules being enforced for really no reason...so each series needs to either enforce the rules....or change them.

But people who whine about people having a different opinion that in their minds is degrading the series....need to get a life. Any discussion means people are watching and God knows we need more pople watching.

vern

First off I haven't addressed blocking in Indycar but being old fashioned--racing is racing-- so quit being whiny girls about blocking and let them race--period. If you want to have all these rules of how to race then paint white lines making lanes and make every driver stay in their lane and just use timing to determine the winner and therefore stopping the whiners nowdays--but wait--that wouldn't stop them as there are always whiners about something.

Far as the crashfest Dega race goes, that isn't racing, just a demoliton derby of survival of the luckiest far as iam concerned. Anyone here remember yrs ago that teams and drivers tried to get Nascar to not count points for these garbage plate races due to the luck factor of winning vs the actual better, faster cars which have nothing to do with the winning usually? However-- good ole Nascar naturally said NO-- so they all count.

Yes iam critical of Indycar but also critical of Nascar as well but we may just say "if you don't like it, then dont watch"
as that works for me as well. I turned off the Dega race early and went shopping and low & behold came back late and they are still in rain delay--end it for crying out loud so the poor fans can go home--good grief. All the ending did was give some poor team the win, but for the rest it was millions of dollars in carnage--nothing else, and Ill bet most of them aren't happy about these races-- but Nascar still doesnt care.

Will

Hope what Sato did will make other IndyCar drivers have same attitude. It's always frustrating to see the way they move up in the field, always on a restart or a simply draft, go to the side and pass. No battles.
Funny thing is that I only see people complaining about a driver defending in USA. Everywhere else this is something cool to watch.
I just wish Helio did the same in Barber. Would be a epic battle for the lead with 3 cars. Like in Sao Paulo.
Too bad many IndyCar drivers are into this "chicken style" and will only use the p2p to defend.

redcar

Four good races. Good for Indycar.


pressdog

I think the reason other drivers didn't drive like Sato, Will, is they thought it was illegal under the rules in place. That's kinda why Dario and Dixon are pissed. They claim Beaux preaches one thing, enforces another. My problem with the current "defending" rule all along was it's so gray it's pretty tough to be consistent on. IndyCar should either ban blocking/defending OR let 'em race and NOT make blocking/defending in any form illegal. I'm fine with either decision. This half measure stuff though, is asking for inconsistency. Now that Sato got away with what he did, Beaux should let similar stuff go as well to be fair. Then you get your wish for Defending Central.

redcar

It's actually more like basketball. Fouls that would normally be called are sometimes ignored in the last few minutes of a game as to not allow officiating to overly affect the end of the game. Or race.

I still think Sato should've been warned when he blocked Newgarten, which may have limited his other blocks. But it's a close call and I'm personally glad it ended the way it did.

billytheskink

Sato's non-penalty made sense in the context of the race (see redcar's basketball officiating analogy), and I agree with Barfield's decision in that it made for a more entertaining finish. I don't agree with it on principal, because what Sato did clearly violated the rules as I understood them. Enforcing rules with 100% consistency is practically impossible, but Sato gave Barfield 3 incidents to review...

I expect drivers will be pushing the envelope on "defending" for the rest of this season. Here's hoping that we don't see anything like the 2010 season, where Barnhart made blocking calls left and right at Indianapolis only to roll up the black flag two weeks later at Texas when several drivers made quite dangerous chops.

bradman

Sato did not do any blocking. Repeat - Sato did not do any blocking. I recorded the race and watched those alledged "blocks" many times. What that was was masterful, F1-experienced, defending of one's position. The difference? Subtlety, and no contact between cars. How's that? Don't just watch Sato's moves, observe the non-emergency response reaction to them. Huh? A true "block" typically causes the blocked car to make some sort of very quick evasive move or hitting of brakes to avoid contact. There was none of that during the last few laps of the Brazil race. Sato adjusted his lines just enough to make the car behind adjust theirs by just enough so as to take out the momentum they had for a pass (along with squeezing the space available for a pass to a minimum). If Sato was a brutish barbarian blocker then Hinchcliffe would never have gotten by him (and likely would have ended up in a wall along with Sato). To the best of my knowledge neither Hinchcliffe nor Newgarden have voiced any complaints. If that's so, then 'nuff said, or unsaid. After numerous cluster-FUBARs earlier in the race it was great to finally see some seriously good racing at the end. Especially by the younger drivers. I believe the torch is being passed this season.

Titus Pullo

The randomness of NASCAR plate races has its good points. It's the way it's achieved-multi car crashes-that worry me.They have very good safety protocols, some of which they even invented, but one day something will go wrong and it will be 24 Heures du Mans all over, this time with a flock of tort lawyers.

Npssandy

You know what, pdog? You convinced me. I was one of those who was frustrated by the "whiners" but you may have hit on something when you say the buzz is good for IndyCar. I still maintain that people calling others "stupid" based on their differing opinions are wrong, but overall maybe a rapid-fire Twitter discussion will help generate more buzz. I'm willing to watch and wait through the rest of the season.

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