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July 21, 2010


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H. B. Donnelly

Unfortunately, there seems to be too much of the old CART/Tony George mentality in some of these guys where their own idea is the only good one and if their interests aren't met, then they'll complain forever. Patel and Bowlby seem ready to go all Boston Tea Party on us and throw crates of Dallara parts into the White River, and the Lola guys (though calmer than the 'Wingers) are doing the fold-their-arms-and-pout thing.

I've enjoyed hearing what Bruce Ashmore has to say over the past few months because he's seemed to have the right mix of optimism and smarts for this process. The BAT car was smartly conceived and I'd like to see more of his ideas implemented as time goes on.

Andy Bernstein

Nice Job, Marshall! You really nailed several of the points I raised on Mike King's radio show last Saturday, and managed not to get insulted for doing so.

Then you added technical questions which an administrative supervisor, whose relevant job experience totals six months, couldn't possibly be expected to answer.

And you did it all while injecting your personal views and preferences into the discussion at any opportunity. Cap it off with a suspect assertion about cost containment priorities, and there you go. Fine piece of journalism indeed.

Sorry Bill, this is another stamp-dweller who has refused to acknowledge my personal correspondences since January. My comments here are only necessary as a result, and will not be extended in your house. Mine is open to visitors as well. Thanks.

Concerned Fan

@Andy Bernstein: "administrative supervisor..." Not even close, Skippy.

Andy Bernstein

@Gilligan: That's cool, insert "Nard dog" if you think it's more appropriate. Or insert anything you want.

The Speedgeek

As much as Mr. Bernstein and I have had our battles, here, there, everywhere, it seems like he and I are on a similar page here. Some of the stuff that Marshall was asking seemed way too in depth for somebody whose technical background around racing is so short (and who doesn't have a technical degree or background previous to this job), and his open shilling for his own agenda (like pushing Tony Cotman for League Tech Director, for instance) doesn't seem all that becoming of somebody who is carrying out the role of a journalist.

This seriously pains me, because I really like Marshall Pruett. I think that he and John Dagys do the absolute best sports car work anywhere, and I'd fight anybody who claimed otherwise, but I'm getting a little worn out on the "it's my way or the highway" agenda that he seems to bring to his IndyCar work. The fact that he (and Robin Miller, to be sure) both refer to Brian Barhnart as "TGBB" (The Great Brian Barnhart, a sarcastic title) in their columns is reprehensible. How's about you guys who are actually getting paid for this stuff act like professional journalists and knock the constant editorializing down just a scoch?


Kirby's article--well, of course those other groups are going to have negative feelings, especially after putting in so much money and time in their projects. So I'm not really surprised that they're bitter. Sort of like interviewing the losing team in the locker room...

And it seemed pretty cheezey for the other dude to push Cotman like that. With that sort of promoting and with Robin Miller's constant chirping, can either of them be considered unbiased, fair journalists?

Mike M

Marshall's interview with Randy comes off as purpsosely negative. Marshall can't grasp the need to attract fans outside of the 5 percent who might know what an underwing is.

If he had is way, there would be three teams who could afford to race. And Kirby has zero credibility for me since his melt down on wind tunnel. These people beg for failure so they can write about it.


Of course you always consider the source, read with a discerning eye, etc. Pruett's froth over the Delta Wing early kinda hurt his credibility as well. But it's interesting that even given that Bernard agreed to the questioning. Says a lot to me. Kirby at least did big interviews with most of the participants at some point.


I'd take Kirby, Miller, and Pruett over the PR spouting NASCAr writers.


Another fugly Dallara.

It won't help or hinder the IRL. They'll have to make it or break it on something other than the cars they drive.

Jeezus ........ what did I just say.......

Bill Tobin

Who the hell is Marshall Pruett?

the american mutt

I personally, didn't appreciate the "it's the drivers duty as a US resident to push for the deltawing" attitude. I understand the thinking, but unless you intend to turn it into a commercially available car, it doesn't really matter how efficient it is. It really just sounded more like, "Well great! They used our idea, but now we're not making money off the car."


I agree american mutt, that was completely disgraceful to rationalize drivers wanting more horsepower as a reason soldiers are dying, all so this guy could make some money.


"Marshall's interview with Randy comes off as purpsosely negative. Marshall can't grasp the need to attract fans outside of the 5 percent who might know what an underwing is."

I think you're being ultra-generous thinking it's as high as 5%. :D

"I'd take Kirby, Miller, and Pruett over the PR spouting NASCAR writers."

Kirby and Miller, yes. Pruett, no. And Pruett in the run up to the DeltaWing reveal was very much spouting PR.

"Who the hell is Marshall Pruett?"

A guy paid by SpeedTV that doesn't understand his point of view on what racing is is a small minority of the American auto racing fanbase.


Agree with Mutt and RJ re: the shameless use of "soldiers dying." Further, these engines will likely run on ethanol, which will be made from sugarcane or corn. While ethanol has its own controversies, I don't see soldiers fighting and dying in the corn fields of South Dakota or sugarcane plantations of Brazil to secure an ethanol fuel source as one of them.


I further agree that the vast vast vast majority of fans neither know nor care about wing angles and wickerbills. I am NOT saying that those things aren't incredibly fascinating for some (nor am I criticizing anyone who thinks they are fascinating). I AM saying that they are incredibly not fascinating for a great many. The key to marketing is communicating benefits to a receptive audience. IndyCar needs to figure out what benefits turn on the MASS audience and communicate those benefits. Underwings are not among them of them.

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